Renewable crystalline.
Right now the ice world is semi playable, but crystalline is impossible to renew. Before the update is finished it would be great if something to make more crystalline was added. This is a concept that I came up with, but i am awful at inkscape so I have no picture.
Crystalline centrifuge:
Costs:
2000 regolith
200 helium-3
100 steel
Tile area: 2x2
Converts regolith and helium-3 into crystalline
Production speed: Same as steel refinery but with crystalline as the output.
Crystalline centrifuge:
Costs:
2000 regolith
200 helium-3
100 steel
Tile area: 2x2
Converts regolith and helium-3 into crystalline
Production speed: Same as steel refinery but with crystalline as the output.
Where do you even get Crystalline from!?!? I mean I see it in the import menu, but I have no storage for it, so where do you get it form!?
Or better yet make it Growable ! crystal Grows All it takes is the right conditions .
Diamond takes heat presser and Carbon and so on .
I will add crystal gives 3 to 1 in reg and with good management should be able to keep enough to gift
to your other colony's to build the new power plant ( which I don't have yet ) .
and all you need is what passes for the consulate on the ice world to gift it to what ever colony you want .
Diamond takes heat presser and Carbon and so on .
I will add crystal gives 3 to 1 in reg and with good management should be able to keep enough to gift
to your other colony's to build the new power plant ( which I don't have yet ) .
and all you need is what passes for the consulate on the ice world to gift it to what ever colony you want .
@DarkPhoenix There is a new planet type under LIS that has crystals.
AH. Thank you! Looks like I'm starting a new colony!
never mind no solar tower and the crystal power pants use crystal .
So yes renewable crystals are a must
Maybe still possible get the bazzar and buy reg and maybe ill see soon enough .
No way just using whats in the colony ( compactors use reg so do power plants so cant make enough ore to build much )
Keep running out of reg had to deactivate most compactors and i only have mabye 50 .
So yes renewable crystals are a must
Maybe still possible get the bazzar and buy reg and maybe ill see soon enough .
No way just using whats in the colony ( compactors use reg so do power plants so cant make enough ore to build much )
Keep running out of reg had to deactivate most compactors and i only have mabye 50 .
Struggling with the same thing here. In the description for synthetic cyrstalline, it says "be careful because it spreads," but I have a few synthetic crystalline deposits sitting there and they don't seem to spread, or regenerate after being partially harvested.
Best I've come up with so far is keeping my colony tiny, prioritizing research early then shutting everything down except a bunch of distilleries (use rum to make synthetic crystalline, but it takes forever) and a microchip factory (also taking forever). next step is to get an aluminum refinery, then a nuclear powerplant, at which point I'll be able to generate power without burning regolith, turn all my buildings back on, and harvest all the very-tradeable uranium on the map.
what screwed me the first time- too many regolith compactors, you don't need much ore and any excess is coming out of the regolith you need to keep your furnaces burning. any unnecessary construction.
Also, any extra furnaces above what you need for power (if you're like me you're used to building solar panels ten at a time) are going to eat into your resources with no gain. Turn off any buildings you don't need at that moment, and any regolith furnaces you've freed up as well.
Even if this works, it's going to take at least a day running to get the 200 microchips needed for an aluminum refinery and 450 for a nuclear reactor. possibly several days.
Best I've come up with so far is keeping my colony tiny, prioritizing research early then shutting everything down except a bunch of distilleries (use rum to make synthetic crystalline, but it takes forever) and a microchip factory (also taking forever). next step is to get an aluminum refinery, then a nuclear powerplant, at which point I'll be able to generate power without burning regolith, turn all my buildings back on, and harvest all the very-tradeable uranium on the map.
what screwed me the first time- too many regolith compactors, you don't need much ore and any excess is coming out of the regolith you need to keep your furnaces burning. any unnecessary construction.
Also, any extra furnaces above what you need for power (if you're like me you're used to building solar panels ten at a time) are going to eat into your resources with no gain. Turn off any buildings you don't need at that moment, and any regolith furnaces you've freed up as well.
Even if this works, it's going to take at least a day running to get the 200 microchips needed for an aluminum refinery and 450 for a nuclear reactor. possibly several days.
Crystalline can only be found on Ice Worlds which only LIS and Zolarg factions can be on. The world is also really tough aswell, resulting in micro-managing, or aka: Treating the game as an Idle game, only building one mound, enough water and food production ot cover it, and then one of every resource producer. Then you wait until you get to reneable ore/gold.
Crystalline can only be mined through natural deposits, or placing synthetic crystalline, but I think it should be more like a Synthetic Crystalline farm.
Or the patches you can place can regenerate as well as grow. Think Tiberium. If you could place a patch and the synthetic variety could regen, and do so up to a higher maximum than you can ever get by merely building it initially, say... it could regen slowly up to 2000 units of crystalline per patch, that would actually be really good, since as Zolarg, it's your ONLY source of sugar materials. Because nobody sells any on the market, and nothing lets you artificially buy it as Zolarg as well. Even if you could, it likely would be under quantities of 5K, which is more or less insignificant to be under it for artificial purchases of highly needed resources.
Zolarg has the Ore Enrichment facility, they could have the Crystalline Pit, which is about 3x3 but produces crystalline at the cost of rum, since based on material costs, it seems Crystalline uses alcohol as a growth catalyst.
Here's some ballpark cost numbers.
2000 Rum
500 Crystalline
1000 civics
400 antanium
10-20 Worker (dunno a good number, probly even 30?)
3x3, or 4x4.
Then the LIS have the Regolith Compactor to produce Ore, and then the next level of it (dunno, haven't played LIS since two patches ago) so let's have a Crystalline Synthesis lab. That could work as the United Earth's version, maybe just a Crystalline Farm? Unsure. Not too aware of the LIS naming and structure design scheme. Could just be a Crystalline factory.
It would probly cost some of every resource up to that point, I'm unsure where Crystalline is used in the LIS tech tree. IF anything though, it would probly be a large building as IMO, the Zolarg are alot better at turning things into metals that realistically make no sense, but are alot more simple as a result as well. Since the Zolarg are able to digest Crystalline into Sugar, and turn ore into a compound that jsut makes food way more beneficial.
Maybe there'll be an Antuara-using unholy structure that'd create artiifical Crystalline from atmosphere or some other really unused resource? Then again, such a building could probly just turn copious amounts of energy into Crystalline, after all, Unholy Power Spires make so much energy, that if you do it right for energy management (Aka using Money Pits intsead of Elder Mounds, which Money pits do more, and WAY better too), you barely need any. Like... a Huge-sized colony probly only need about 50 of the things at absolute maximum. A small Colony can easily get by with 10 if every square is used up.
Crystalline can only be mined through natural deposits, or placing synthetic crystalline, but I think it should be more like a Synthetic Crystalline farm.
Or the patches you can place can regenerate as well as grow. Think Tiberium. If you could place a patch and the synthetic variety could regen, and do so up to a higher maximum than you can ever get by merely building it initially, say... it could regen slowly up to 2000 units of crystalline per patch, that would actually be really good, since as Zolarg, it's your ONLY source of sugar materials. Because nobody sells any on the market, and nothing lets you artificially buy it as Zolarg as well. Even if you could, it likely would be under quantities of 5K, which is more or less insignificant to be under it for artificial purchases of highly needed resources.
Zolarg has the Ore Enrichment facility, they could have the Crystalline Pit, which is about 3x3 but produces crystalline at the cost of rum, since based on material costs, it seems Crystalline uses alcohol as a growth catalyst.
Here's some ballpark cost numbers.
2000 Rum
500 Crystalline
1000 civics
400 antanium
10-20 Worker (dunno a good number, probly even 30?)
3x3, or 4x4.
Then the LIS have the Regolith Compactor to produce Ore, and then the next level of it (dunno, haven't played LIS since two patches ago) so let's have a Crystalline Synthesis lab. That could work as the United Earth's version, maybe just a Crystalline Farm? Unsure. Not too aware of the LIS naming and structure design scheme. Could just be a Crystalline factory.
It would probly cost some of every resource up to that point, I'm unsure where Crystalline is used in the LIS tech tree. IF anything though, it would probly be a large building as IMO, the Zolarg are alot better at turning things into metals that realistically make no sense, but are alot more simple as a result as well. Since the Zolarg are able to digest Crystalline into Sugar, and turn ore into a compound that jsut makes food way more beneficial.
Maybe there'll be an Antuara-using unholy structure that'd create artiifical Crystalline from atmosphere or some other really unused resource? Then again, such a building could probly just turn copious amounts of energy into Crystalline, after all, Unholy Power Spires make so much energy, that if you do it right for energy management (Aka using Money Pits intsead of Elder Mounds, which Money pits do more, and WAY better too), you barely need any. Like... a Huge-sized colony probly only need about 50 of the things at absolute maximum. A small Colony can easily get by with 10 if every square is used up.
Playing the LIS faction on Ice World. I even think, that we need a structure to manage production of crystalline like a Crystalline Synthesizer using rum, regolith and helium 3 to grow crystallines
jova said:Playing the LIS faction on Ice World. I even think, that we need a structure to manage production of crystalline like a Crystalline Synthesizer using rum, regolith and helium 3 to grow crystallines
Nice! Love the barrel of rum outside the door.
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