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Soon Bast plans on having to much trash and to much atmosphere get colonists sick .
Over 15 million atmos and problems will start so I have been testing how well the Medium recycling plants and trash burners handle this .
First trash burners are out even at only 9 k colonists I had 7 and they by them self put in a whopping 15 k atmosphere more then 100 medium atmos producers do and was still just maintaining trash . So using them is out as they will add even if you have 100 s of alien condensers .
Trash pits well again at 9 k colonists even they would quickly take up alot of space the one i built is 3/4 empty now from 250 k, and it took over 20 hours .
So the final test was the medium recycling center and here the good news gets great .

Medium recycling center timer is 12 seconds ( apx ) it produces 8 plastic a mint and 2 AL
also it recycles as much trash as the Medium burner burnes .

I have 2 plastic plants they produce 36 plastic and use oil .
I have 3 Advanced plastic plants they produce 279 plastic and use oil and robots .
I now have 5 medium recycling plants that are getting ride of trash I don't want so cost NOTHING to run .
They produce 71 plastic using NO robots or oil- produce NO atmosphere and get ride of trash. I expect to need ten at that point they will be producing 140 plastic my trash income will be even and no bots or oil needed .
With a colony of 30 or 40 k They will out produce Advanced Plastic plants easily again at no cost .
And no atmosphere produced .
Ps plan to do away with Advanced plastic plants all together as once I have 40 or 50 medium recycling plants The advanced plastic plant will not be needed .

The new Water World map coming in v0.77.0 is the first map to be available to every civ in the game, and was designed to be fully playable by every civ. By far the hardest to get started though will be the Reptilians, as Crystalline is a vital Reptilian resource, and it is not present on the Water World map. That said, it is still possible to get a Reptilian colony up and running on Water World, but it will take careful planning and resource management at the beginning in order to get the colony off the ground.

As long as your map starts you with at least one Ore Deposit and one Aluminum Deposit within harvesting reach, you should be able to spin up a successful Reptilian base. If you start the map and do not have access to at least one each of those, you might as well quit and restart. Remember that the Construction Probe is a flying unit, so you can move it to different islands in search of the resources you need. You want to start on an island that has both, or an area that has two islands close enough together that a small bridge will be able to connect them, as you cannot waste your initial resources on excessive bridge building.

The strategy is to basically get to the Medium Range Star Gate as soon as you can while spending as few resources as you can to get there. Once you have the Medium Range Star Gate, you can import Crystalline and then build the synthetic kind using the Enslaved Extremeobug. The Medium Range Star Gate is not cheap though, and will require more Antanium than you start out with, meaning you will also need to build an Antanium Impactor. You will also need two Microreactors in order to power everything.

So to begin, you should build 1 Microreactor, a Powered Materials Silo, and a Slave Gate. Then produce Gold, Ore, and Aluminum bugs and start harvesting. When you can afford it, first build the second Microreactor, and then the Antanium Impactor. After that you are just waiting until you have enough resources to build the Medium Range Star Gate.

Once you have the Medium Range Star Gate, you are basically home free and can build anything you want, as you now have the ability to import and export all Reptilian resources. The trick is getting to that point, as building one extra structure can put you in a resource position where you will never be able to recover, and will ultimately lead your map to a dead end.

To build the Synthetic Crystalline Deposit, you will need to import Crystalline and Rum from the Medium Range Star Gate. You can export Gold or Aluminum to generate the required funds. Once you are growing Synthetic, your map should be good to go. Just make sure you find a nice secluded place for it, as Crystalline Spread can be problematic for a settlement.

Although it's harder to get started, the Reptilians can have a fully functional and self sufficient Water World base. It just takes planning and patience!

I decide play online game as Alpha Draconian. I choose the AI charter. As starting world i choose Abandoned World. In abandoned world is no uranium needed to operate Microreactors. So solution for this is just trade through Medium range star gate.
I start with few enslaved worker drones(source of sugar), goldbugs(source of gold), alumibugs(source of aluminium), lumberbugs(source of wood) and one water bug(source of water). When i gather some basic resouces, i build some gold reducers, antanium impactors and paste extractors to get more resources to continue. In abandoned world is no uranium resources needed for operate microreactors so i build medium range star gate and start exporting water(100 units per click/confirm), and few other resources like gold/aluminium/wood etc. Basicly target is enough money to buy 100 crystals and 1000 Rums to start farm more synthetic crystals. Problem is that when i try import Rum it pops up various contracts, i choose the cheapest one from "Cyty" the one the most down there. At first it says something like contract is no more available. Ok, but when i try import one more time then it just do nothing. Export still works, but im unable to import any resources. So, i do save colony, return to title, and when i try load my online colony it says "Unable to connect to My Colony server. Games in online mode require an internet connection to play." I dont know what im doing wrong.
I play on downloaded client for win7/8/10 64-bit version 0.83.0
For case you would ask, i play on win7.
Enslaved Bugs: 1x Water, 4x Worker, 4xLumber, 4x Gold, 4x Aluminium
Buildings: 16xGold reducer, 1x Slave Gate, 4x Microreactor, 1x Medium range star gate, 2x Antanium impactor, 1x Powered materials silo, 2x Paste extractor
Tax: paid once(before medium range star gate was build)
Export: mainly water, few gold, few aluminium, few wood
Import: nothing else then Rum was tried first(problem is that im unable to load current or start new online game)
It happens twice today, i just think that servers was truly offline so i watch some series for hours before i try start one more time.
Before i play for second time i in frustration delete save of previous online game.
Maybe its important map was created Map size - Mega, Resources - Abundant
I think the streaming was On when i play. icon in down right corner is red.

Ty for any help or suggestions.

Let me first start off by saying that I know bast is focused on finishing antiquitas and he probably will not consider another race until he has time to focus solely on my colony.

So here are my ideas for races that could be put in the game. I can only include six because the poll only allows for six possible answers.

1. Automations:
Description: A Utopian sentient robot society whose sole purpose is to terraform worlds into beautiful paradises. They need less care than organic colonists, they have no need for a government since greed, deceit, and violence are not a part of their nature, and they only produce what they need to terraform the planet and survive as they give the rest back to their planet. They prefer to be an isolated society but warmly welcome and care for newcomers from other races.

Difficulty: Very Easy-easy
Production potential: the least out of all races
Main building resource: ore
Terraforming Potential: the most efficient out of all races
Economic potential: very low
Governmental potential: the least out of all races
research potential: average
growth rate: very high
Tourist potential: very high
Food and water production: the most efficient out of all races
Micromanagement needs at beginning of game: very little.
Colonist eats: power and small amounts of oil, new colonists are built from ore.
Colonist entertained by: Work, walking around when planet is between 5-15 mil atmosphere, research.
Building method: buildings are built by vehicles, same as humans and insectoids.
optimum atmosphere range: 5-15 mil
Colonizable atmosphere range: 0-100

2.) Reptilians
Description: A society built on honor for one's neighbor and zealous loyalty to the theocracy. These people are known for their vast uses of crystalline since a viable source of regolith, ore, and gold couldn't be found on their home planet. They synthesize the purest crystalline out of all races. The reptilians need less governing, but they can still build a very strong government unlike the automations. A more advanced race than humans, the reptilians build structures that are more autonomous and require less workers. Their honorbound and zealous disposition often prevents them from asking important questions though, which limits the amount of research they produce, and their technology and society allow them to function very well in all environments, which hinders their motivation to terraform even though they would still prefer to live in a hospitable environment. Because of the reptilians tendency to colonize planets with hostile environments, not many people want to move to reptilian worlds. The reptilians are not know for their capacity for trading and economics as they serve a theocracy, but they do need money to survive and trading is a means to an end for them.


Difficulty: medium-hard
Production potential: very high
Main building resource: crystalline
Terraforming Potential: the least efficient out of all races
Economic potential: average
Governmental potential: the best out of all races
research potential: low
Growth rate: low
Tourist potential: low
Food and water production: average
Micromanagement needs at beginning of game: low to moderate.
Colonist eats: food and water
Colonist entertained by: religion, fighting arenas, human-like entertainment
building method: buildings warps are started and left alone to build themselves as the vehicle does other tasks. This slows down build speed though.
optimum atmosphere range: 2.5-30mil
Colonizable atmosphere range: 0-100

3.) Jellyfish
Description: The Jellyfish thrive in high atmospheric conditions as they do not live on the ground but build their cities in the sky out of floating structures. The jellyfish survive solely on atmosphere instead of food and water. The jellies pride themselves in their various uses of atmosphere, but this drains the planet of all atmosphere eventually, so it's a race against time to develop the technologies and resources for adding atmosphere back to the planet. On their homeworld, a gas giant, native plants and animals balance the ecosystem by producing atmosphere, but even that isn't enough to support a fast growing civilization. The jellies are creatures of curiosity, which fuels their motivation for research, and their society promotes a balanced governmental authority. They tend to be avid traders and economists and are very welcoming, but their high atmospheric environment is inhospitable to most races, hindering tourism and immigration. Their terraforming methods are very effective, but their needs for atmosphere always put a damper on any terraforming effects. When colonizing a low atmospheric planet, they build bubble-like structures on the ground that rise into the sky as the planet's atmosphere increases. These bubbles need to be attached to one another so that jellies can travel inside of them, because they lack the technology to develop environmental suits to walk outside on those planets. The jellies also use different animals from their homeworld to collect resources and morph into structures.

Difficulty: medium
Production potential: average
Main building resource: atmosphere
Terraforming Potential: high
Economic potential: the best out of all races
Governmental potential: average
research potential: very high
growth rate: very high
Tourist potential: very low
Food and water production: the least efficient out of all races
Micromanagement needs at beginning of game: depends on the planet.
Colonist eats: atmosphere
Colonist entertained by: regular entertainment
building method: worker animals are morphed into structures and cannot be helped by other workers, this causes a slower build speed.
optimum atmosphere range: 10-100 mil
Colonizable atmosphere range: 0-100

4.) Snowmen
Description: A younger race, the snowmen live in smaller tribes and work together to expand their reach. They look like yeti with thick white fur, but don't let them fool you, they are crafty. They thrive in taiga environments where wood and snow abound, but they have difficulty working and moving in warmer environments. They were uplifted and given space travel technology by this LIS, but they were never given the technology to colonize planets that aren't within the 1 mil to 15 mil range. Their tribal form of government makes it hard for them to form a strong government and they aren't recognized as advanced enough to be taken seriously by most space-faring races. Some people even keep them as slaves to do their work. As a result, the snowmen are cynical and inhospitable toward outsiders and have trouble accepting anyone of another race into their society. They devote all of their time to gathering resources and materials for building up the colony because they long to be recognized as an official space-faring race. Their mass production plans require many many jobs though due to their primitive machines and buildings, and this race has average growth, so progress through the game will be slower.

Difficulty: hard-brutal
Production potential: high
Main building resource: wood
Terraforming Potential: average
Economic potential: the least of all the races
Governmental potential: low
research potential: the best out of all races
growth rate: average
Tourist potential: the least out of all races
Food and water production: average
Micromanagement needs at beginning of game: high
Colonist eats: food, water
Colonist entertained by: primitive and human-like entertainment
building method: built by workers/vehicles like xolarg and humans build.
optimum atmosphere range: 1-10 mil
Colonizable atmosphere range: 1-10 mil

4.) Ancients
Description: Those purple buildings that you see in every advanced colony; yeah, they came from these guys. The most advanced race in the game, most ancients see all other races as inferior to them and usually won't trade with other races unless they have to. This god complex makes them too arrogant to see their mistakes or to try to improve their technology and they are more than willing to invite outsiders from primitive races to bask in the glory of their technology. As the most advanced race, they are inherently the best at resource production. Their buildings are more autonomous as well, but the ancients only mate once a year, so they are the slowest growing of all races. Their government is pretty effective due to the use of more advanced technology to enforce laws, but providing entertainment will be harder since these people require more intelligent entertainment that usually costs more. Every ancient would love to live in a paradise, so terraforming is a higher priority, especially since the ancient can only tollerate a 7.5-12.5 mil atmosphere range is required for ancients to survive without protection.

Difficulty: hard-brutal
Production potential: the best of all races
Main building resource: ore
Terraforming Potential: high
Economic potential: low
Governmental potential: high
research potential: low
growth rate: slowest of all races
Tourist potential: average
Food and water production: high
Micromanagement needs at beginning of game: low, but slow growth rate means that game progress takes the longest.
Colonist eats: food, water
Colonist entertained by: more intelligent entertainment
building method: buildings warped in like reptilians
Optimum atmosphere range: 7.5-12.5 mil
Colonizable atmosphere range: 0-100 mil

6.) Tallorians/rock men
Description: As Sulfur-based lifeforms, the tallorians survive and thrive in the hottest places of the galaxy. Their rocky exoskeletons protect them from any envorinment, but they prefer a hotter, higher atmosphere planet like their homeworld. The wildlife and spectacular views on rock men planets attracts attention from tourism and the rock men make a killing off of novelties. The rock men promote a balanced government, terraforming, and research stance and they have a stellar economy, but where they have an abundance of attention and money, they lack in production and growth.They have a somewhat similar technology to humans, but they use less resources as they are not a production focused raced.

Difficulty: medium-hard
Production potential: low
Main building resource: regolith
Terraforming Potential: average
Economic potential: very high
Governmental potential: average
research potential: average
growth rate: low
Tourist potential: Very high
Food and water production: very low
Micromanagement needs at beginning of game: medium
Colonist eats: ore
Colonist entertained by: human-like entertainment,
building method: buildings warped in like reptilians
Optimum atmosphere range: 20-40 mil
Colonizable atmosphere range: 0-100 mil

For little bases (like small City), the first option is doable, but for medium city..

Having everything separated will help with the micromanagement, after, for the other question:

Like in real life:

Big central > big transformer (for big industrial site) > medium transformer (normal industrial stuff) > little transformer (house, little shop).

This logic can be applied in every "pipes".

Of course medium central and little central can generate only for medium and little transformer.

was just building a bunch of advanced robo factories and all of a sudden construction stops. im like ok maybe a resource is low. turns out 5t money just disappeared. gone. thought ok maybe i used it i build a whole medium city today so almost makes sense. so i sell some obsidian for another 5t money. 2 minutes later, gone. i thought okay maybe its servers lagging or something and give it a few minutes to fix itself. nothing. give it a restart and bam, whole medium city gone. not so mad about money or resources but i spent a few good hours planning and building the medium city. want to at least know why it disappeared

For a while now, there has always been a building in the game called the 'Small Vehicle Factory.' With my suggestion, this building will get two new additions, the Medium Vehicle Factory and the Large Vehicle Factory. These would serve as upgrade tiers for the Small Vehicle Factory, and build grouped versions of the normal bots. For example, the Medium Vehicle Factory would build instances of x10 grouped vehicles, and the Large Vehicle Factory would build instances of x100 grouped vehicles. These upgraded versions would appear after Large Scale Construction and Tall Construction, respectively, requiring the Megabot for the Medium Vehicle Factory and the Drone for the Large Vehicle Factory. I think this would make it easier for those players who just want to build a lot more vehicles, for things like ether production or quick construction for those buildings that aren't built by turbo vehicle variants.

I know that many players have been patiently waiting for the next My Colony 2 update, but now the way is finally over as MC2 has just been updated to v0.31.0, and along with the usual bug fixes, this update brings with it a massive new content dump! So what all is inside? Let's take a look!


If you look at the screenshot above and think that something seems a bit fishy, then you would be correct. This update adds fish as a new resource, and you will now see them swimming around in the oceans on the Water World map! Fish are technically a Terrain type object in the game engine much like Ore and Gold deposits, except this is the first terrain class that can be generated in the water. The object also rotates in a circle, to give the appearance that the fish are swimming. They will spread too, similar to synthetic crystalline (although at a slower rate). The oceans on Water World are so overflowing with fish, that I doubt anybody will ever run out.

To go along with the new fish resource are the also-new Fish Dropoff structure and the Trawler unit, which are available pretty early on in the game and made with models provided by @spamdude . The Fish Dropoff can store 2500 Fish and also converts some of it into food, but once you unlock Salt Water production, you can also build the shore based Refrigerated Fish Bins for additional Fish storage. In addition to the new content, the existing Fish Hatchery gains fish storage and slight generation.

Moving on, there was a massive dump of community submitted MC2 models on the Official Discord Server recently, with contributions coming in from @spamdude , @SPARKY0303 and @DoYouHaveAnyOats , so please take a moment to thank these three users for their contributions to the game! In the screenshot below, you can see many of the new structures.


New buildings provided by @SPARKY0303 are the Hospital, the Virtual Music Experience and the Integrated Nuclear Reactor. The Hospital was a much needed upgrade to the two infirmary structures which were increasingly unable to keep up with the medical demands of larger colonies. The Virtual Music Experience adds a new semi-early game entertainment structure for your colonists (which also generates some money) and the Integrated Nuclear Reactor is another much needed structure, providing a power boosting upgrade to the existing Small Nuclear Reactor.

In addition to the new Fish related content already mentioned, further contributions from @spamdude include the new Medium Software Studio, Advanced Drilling Platform, Integrated Warehouse, and Medium Security Station. The Medium Software Studio, Integrated Warehouse and Medium Security Station each represent new mid-game upgrades to some of the existing structures that badly needed upgrade options, with the new Integrated Warehouse in particular adding storage for many resources that the regular Warehouse did not cover.

The new Advanced Drilling Platform might just be everyone's new favorite structure. Currently the most expensive building in the game and requiring the new Ultra Deep Excavation tech, the Advanced Drilling Platform consumes Helium 3 (as well as a fair amount of Power, Water and Bandwidth) while producing Ore, Regolith, Gold, Aluminum, Oil, Salt Water, the new Clay resource, and even a few Alien Artifacts! Clearly you are going to need to get your hands on some Helium 3 in order to operate this thing, but you can either find it in the Galactic Board of Trade, or the new Integrated Nuclear Reactor also produces enough Helium 3 to operate one Advanced Drilling Platform. I have also added a new Helium 3 Tank to the game, since it is clear that more He3 storage will be needed going forward.

From @DoYouHaveAnyOats we have three new structures, the Elementary School, High School and the nonsense Fish 'R Us building.


The two school models to me looked like they required an Atmospheric environment, so they are only available on worlds which would have an atmosphere. They both sit below the current Vocational Training Center in terms of education output, but are good early game education structures. The Fish R Us is similar in mechanics to the existing Canteen, except it utilizes Fish instead of Rum. I'm not going to post a picture of it here, you just have to see it in-game.

There are a few other new structures to arrive in this update as well. The new Ancient Alien Quantum Physics tech unlocks two new Alien structures, the Alien Solar Tower and the Quantum Food Silo, which both represent much needed Alien upgrades to existing structures. Climate Science Theory tech has also been added to the game, and unlocking it will allow you to build the new Nuclear Water Synthesis Plant, which I felt was needed particularly on the Lunar and Abandoned Worlds.


On top of all of the new content, some tweaks have been made to some of the existing items in the game. I have increased the charcoal output of the Charcoal Factory, slightly reduced the rum consumption of the Canteen, increased the spice and ether storage on the Lander, added a small amount of Helium 3 and Salt Water storage to the Lander, and added several new upgrade paths for existing structures to take advantage of the new content.

There are also some technical changes and fixes. Firstly, I corrected an issue where players who were not logged in to an Ape Apps Account were unable to play the game. I fixed a bug where MC2 was unable to load using the new Ape Apps Launcher. Structures can now be placed directly over Terrain objects, doing so will automatically bulldoze the terrains underneath. I corrected several technical issues with the Galactic Board of Trade. Fixed a bug where you could no longer properly build Palm Trees or Synthetic Crystalline deposits. There were also several minor fixes and UI tweaks made to the game.

All in all, this update includes 1 new Terrain object, 3 new Techs, 2 new Resources, 1 new Unit, and 16 new Structures. I want to thank everyone who contributed content to this release (as well as bug reports and suggestions), and I hope that you all take a moment to show them some gratitude as well! This update took a bit longer than normal, but I think you will find that it was worth the wait. It should be available to play right now on the Launcher and on the Web, and should be hitting Android and iPhone over the coming days, so let me know what you think, let me know what issues you find, and stay tuned for more!

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Gold ? the gold labs are unaffected its the Advanced Plastics plant that could be deleted .
And as for robots fact is the Advanced plastic plants does not use many But seeing as how every thing else uses ALOT it saves a few so that is a plus .
And finely the medium recycling plants will take every employ who lost a job from deleting the advanced plastic plants as they employ 65 and that plant employs 50 .
I now have 11 medium recycling plants and am bringing in a extra 180 plastic .and 18 al
Were did get Gold labs from ? recycling plant does not make gold .

I now have 11 Medium recycling plants trash income out flow is steady .
Total plastic income 211 max out put AL 27 max out put
3 advanced plastic plants max out put 288
75 al plants at 550 or so max out put
Atmosphere gain 0 Atmosphere stead at 14.980 million
same 9 k colonists .
This building is great .
4 medium recycling plants = 1 Advanced plastic plant ( apx ) and 5 or 6 will = one al plant again apx . The benefits are they build fast they are cheep to build they don't produce atmosphere and get ride of trash totally no landfills or burners needed .

All planets should be choose-able by all nation types. Each type would present, certain bonuses or challenges to a race of course. For example, humans would enjoy the earth like planets and the sugarland planets. Populations there would be more happy and relaxed. While lava worlds would make no one happy, affecting each civilization negatively at its own rate.

Technologies specific to a world type would be auto unlocked within a grouped thing based on the planet a civilization is on. E.G. Humans would be able to adapt to all planets, especially the league. Using geothermal generators on lava worlds while having sugar factories on sugar worlds, using wood on earth like planets.

Exporting planet specific resources to another world that doesn't have those resources should allow certain structures as well. Such as taking wood from an Earth Like, and sending it to an Ice World, would allow wood structures once the atmosphere reaches a specific point.

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Earth Like: Beginner
10% improved approval ratings across all species.
100% solar panel efficiency.
Default Ore: Ore

Red Planet: Easy
15% improved approval ratings for Draconians.
80% solar panel efficiency.
Default Ore: Ore

Lunar: Medium
5% improved approval ratings for: Humans
75% solar panel efficiency.
Default Ore: Regolith
Max of low atmosphere. (no ability to go helmetless)

Forest World: Hard
15% improved approval ratings for: Humans
100% solar panel efficiency
Default Ore: Ore

Asteroid: Hard
No improvement on approval ratings.
50% solar panel efficiency.
Default Ore: Regolith
No night time.
No atmosphere.

Abandoned World: Hard
10% improved approval ratings for: Zolarg
5% imprved approval ratings for: Humans, Draconians
75% solar panel efficiency
Default Ore: Ore
Repairs costs doubled.

Ice World: Brutal
5% reduced approval ratings for: Humans.
15% reduced approval ratings for: Zolarg
5% solar panel efficiency
Default Ore: Regolith/Crystal/Ice
Repair costs doubled.
Immigration speed 75% reduced.
Rare Resource: Crystal
Always Night

Sugarland: Medium
15% improved approval ratings for: Zolarg
5% reduced approval ratings for: Humans (too many ants!)
80% solar panel efficiency
Default Ore: Ore

Lava World: Death
20% reduced approval ratings for all species
125% solar panel efficiency (closer to star)
Default Ore: Regolith
Repair costs tripled.
Immigration speed 90% reduced.
Rare Resource: Obsidian
Special Tech: Geothermal Power
Tech Removal: No water obtaining (trade only)

Desert World: Medium
15% improved approval ratings for: Draconian
10% reduced approval ratings for: Humans, Zolarg
105% solar panel efficiency (clearer atmo and closer to star)
Default Ore: Regolith
Tech Hindered: Water obtaining is reduced in efficiency by 80%
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Now when I say modify approval ratings, these ratings start out higher or lower by that much, and every action that changes approval ratings is amplified by that amount.

Solar power will be different based on distance to the star, if you're on one planet with bad solar efficiency, obviously it would be better to build something else instead.

On hot planets, its either harder to get water, or impossible. Requiring trade to get it. If lava world, colony would start out with additional water supplies to get them through the research that would get them the ability to trade and import water. Or rather, a colony would only start on this planet, if they have another colony that promised to send them aid.

Planets that default to Regolith, will need to process Regolith into Ore based on that species regolith to ore conversion ratio (mentioned in another topic of mine).

Planets with rare resources are hard, but have a valuable resource that can be exported or used for special features.

Certain choices, are just too small, with gravity making it impossible to sustain an atmosphere. One possible fix, is to add end game research on these planets that allows an expensive dome to be built around the planet through a single structure called a Dome Controller that takes far longer than anything else in the game to build and would allow an atmosphere within these environments.

With the latest update and the launch of the option to play with Regions, I jumped right in and started up some new colonies to try it out in a local game for myself so I can learn how it all works.

I created a medium and then a small colony yesterday and everything seemed to be running pretty awesome. Except, when I saved the Medium colony and moved to create the Small one, I noticed that several of the larger(early) researches like microchips and civics, had reverted to as if I had never researched them. Which I did, on the medium colony before I created the small one. It was not a big setback though, so I just moved on.

I progressed and got up to mining aluminum and uranium, let them run for a while, and then saved and closed out for the day. I turned it on today and logged in to find that I had absolutely no aluminum and no uranium. Well over half of my aluminum nodes were gone (Harvested yesterday, I watched it happen), and all of my uranium nodes are gone (Also harvested yesterday)

I am running the desktop version
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Edit- Research is still resetting after the .72 update. New Zolarg Regions, I get one colony set up and up to crystalline production. I make a second colony because the first ate up its gold resources very quickly, build it up a bit without issue, tech is all researched. I open it up the next day to keep going, and tech is all reset as if I never researched it.

This post is a collection of a lot of ideas and features I think need to be added. Some of these have been requested by other people but I am putting it all in a big collection and explaining how it would work together. I will be working on this post for a few days so expect to see edits adding new ideas. I will make the textures, with help from a friend, if this post becomes popular enough. Considering the amount of ideas here, this will take a while. I understand all this could be an unrealistic amount of additions but I am doing my best to make it reuse all of the existing code to the fullest. Thank you for still reading, a lot of people would have left by now!.

Please tell me what you think of all my ideas!

The first part of my ideas is a new planet type: Geyser World. I already made a post on it but I will go more in depth here:
Planet Details:
Buildable Rovers at Start(UE):
-Lunar Rover
-Rover
Starting Rovers(UE)
-Lunar Rover
-Rover
Non-Buildable Buildings:
Small Water Pump
Small Solar Panel
Starting Atmosphere: 10 million
Resources Contained(numbers are for medium world):
Ore deposits(around 7)
Regolith deposits(around 5)
Steam Vents(around 10)
Rock Fissures(around 20)


New Resources (items):
-Boiling Water: Looks a lot like water
-Mineral Water: Looks like water but with little spots in it.

New Vehicles:
-Heat Resistant Waterbot: Collects boiling water from boiling water deposits.
Cost: ore: 100 steel: 2 wheel: 6
Tech Required: Geyser World Base, Human Base.

-Treated Waterbot:
-Heat Resistant Waterbot: Collects mineral water from mineral water deposits.
Cost: ore: 1000 steel: 20 wheel: 6
Tech Required:Basic Mineral Resistance.

New Tech:
-Basic Mineral Resistance:
Cost: 20 steel
Prerequisites: Geyser World Base, Human Base
Unlocks: Tiny Mineral Extractor

-Mineral Resistance:
Cost: 25 research
Prerequisites: Basic Mineral Resistance
Unlocks: Small Mineral Extractor

-Thermodynamics:
Cost: 500 research
Prerequisites: Geyser World Base, Human Base, Mineral Resistance
Unlocks: Thermoelectric Generator, Advanced Water Condenser

New Resource tiles:
-Steam Vent(1x1): Just a tile that exists. Looks like a crack in the ground, has a puff of steam coming out. Counts as another kind of terrain, kind of like salt water or lava. Damages rovers and buildings nearby, similar to lava. Will not spread. Contains no resources.
-Rock Fissure(1x1): Just a tile that exists. Looks like a crack in the ground with obsidian inside Counts as another kind of terrain, kind of like salt water or lava. Damages rovers and buildings nearby, similar to lava. Will not spread. Contains no resources.

New Buildings:
-Water Condenser(1x1): Built on steam vents.
Power Used:2
Resource Production: Twice as much water as small water pump.
Tech Required: Geyser World Base, Human Base
Build Cost:500 ore, 20 steel, 1 gold
Built By: Builder Bot
Upgrades to: Advanced Water Condenser

-Tiny Thermoelectric Generator(1x1): Built on steam vents.
Power Generated: 2
Tech Required: Geyser World Base, Human Base
Build Cost: 200 ore, 200 regolith
Upgrades to: thermoelectric generator

-Thermoelectric Generator(1x1): Built on steam vents.
Power Generated: 5
Tech Required: Thermodynamics
Build Cost: 2000 ore, 250 steel, 5 gold

-Advanced Water Condenser(1x1): Built on steam vents.
Power Used:5
Resource Production: Six times as much water as small water pump.
Tech Required: Thermodynamics, Advanced Construction
Build Cost:5000 ore, 200 steel, 100 gold, 50 aluminum
Built By: Advanced Builder Bot

-Tiny Water Conditioner(1x1): Built on normal terrain.
Power Used:2
Resource Production: Turns boiling water into water, same amount as the water produced by a small water pump
Tech Required: Geyser World Base, Human Base
Build Cost:500 ore, 20 steel
Built By: Builder Bot

-Small Water Conditioner(1x1): Built on normal terrain.
Power Used:5
Resource Production: Turns boiling water into water, same amount as six small water pumps
Tech Required: Thermodynamics, Advanced Construction
Build Cost:2500 ore, 50 steel, 10 gold, 2 aluminum
Built By: Advanced Builder Bot

-Tiny Mineral Extractor:
Power Used:5
Workers:1
Resource Production:Turns mineral water into a very small amount of gold.

-Small Mineral Extractor:
Power Used:5
Workers:1
Resource Production:Turns mineral water into a very small amount of gold.

The second part of my ideas is another new planet type: Soaring Cliffs. It is a similar idea to the water world but will play differently. It goes great with the avian race idea below.
Planet Details:
Buildable Rovers at Start(UE):
-Rover
-forest rover
Starting Rovers(UE)
-Rover
-forest rover
Buildable Workers at Start(Zolarg):all
Non-Buildable Buildings: none
Starting Atmosphere:5 million
Resources Contained(numbers are for medium world):
Ore deposits(around 5)
Fir Trees(a lot, similar to forest world)
Cliff Face(replaces large drops that are adjacent to land)
Large Drop(generated similar to water on the water world)

New Resources (items):
-Krypton Gas: Think Helium-3 but its Krypton

New Tech:
-Rare Animal Zoology:
Cost: 20000 research
Prerequisites: low atmospheric zoology, 5 mil atmosphere

New Buildings:
-Mountain Goat Pen(2x2):
Build Cost:200 wood, 20 ore
Built By: Forest Rover, Greenbot.
Resource Production: Wool 10/Minute
Required Tech: Human Base OR Avian Base, Soaring Cliffs Base OR Rare Animal Zoology, 5 mil atmosphere


-Weaver's House(1x1):
Build Cost:200 wood, 20 ore, 10 wool
Built By: Forest Rover, Greenbot, lumberbot.
Resource Production: Wool 10/Minute
Required Tech: Human Base OR Avian Base 5 mil atmosphere

-Rope Bridge(1x1):Built over water, salt water, ether, gas deposits(see next suggestion) or air.
Build Cost:20 wood, 10 ore, 2 cloth
Built By: Rover, Avian Rover, Forest Rover, Avian Forest Rover, Builder Bot
Required Tech: Human Base OR Avian Base, 5 mil atmosphere


-Rope Bridge NS(1x1):Built over water, salt water, ether, gas deposits(see next suggestion) or air.
Build Cost:20 wood, 10 ore, 2 cloth
Built By: Rover, Avian Rover, Forest Rover, Avian Forest Rover, Builder Bot
Required Tech: Human Base OR Avian Base, 5 mil atmosphere


-Rope Bridge Anchor(1x1):Built on land and cliff faces. Just a decorative road to go along with the rope bridge.
Build Cost:20 wood, 10 ore, 2 cloth
Built By: Rover, Avian Rover, Forest Rover, Avian Forest Rover, Builder Bot
Required Tech: Human Base OR Avian Base, 5 mil atmosphere


The third part of my ideas is yet another new planet type: Gas Giant. The Progression would be based around floating helium balloons due to how easy it is to float in a planet with a very dense atmosphere.
Planet Details:
Buildable Rovers at Start(UE,LIS):
-Balloon Rover
Starting Rovers(UE,LIS):
-Balloon Rover
Custom Lander(UE,LIS):
-Balloon Lander
Non-Buildable Buildings: none
Starting Atmosphere:500 billion
Resources Contained(numbers are for medium world):
Regolith deposits(around 5)
Gas Deposit(contains infinite xenon, covers most of the world. Generates like water in water world but even more frequent.)

New Vehicles:
-Ballon Rover: Works similar to a lunar rover but can fly over buildings.
Cost: ore: 100 helium:20 wheel: 6
Tech Required: Geyser World Base, Human Base.
Can Build:Tiny helium-3 condenser, helium-3 condenser, helium compactor, regolith compactor, storage tank, suspended storage tank, regolith crusher.


-Ballon Builder Bot: Works like a normal builder bot but can fly over buildings
Cost: ore:100 wheel:6 helium:50
Tech Required: Geyser World Base, Human Base

-Small Builder Zeppelin: Works like a normal advanced builder bot but can fly on gas deposits.
Cost: ore:1000 wheel:6
Tech Required: Geyser World Base, Human Base, advanced small scale construction

-Balloon Lander Airborne: Airborne version of balloon lander. Can land on gas deposits or normal land.


New Resources (items):
-Xenon Gas: Think Helium-3 but its Xenon

New Buildings:
-Balloon Lander(1x1): Can be built on Gas Deposits or on normal land.
Power Produced:2
Housing: 2 colonists
Can Build: Balloon Rover.


-Tiny Helium-3 Condenser:(1x1):
Power Used:1
Build cost: Regolith 20
Resource Production: Turns atmosphere to helium-3 at a quarter of the rate of a helium-3 extractor.


-Helium-3 Condenser:(1x1):
Power Used:1
Build cost: ore 20
Resource Production: Turns atmosphere to helium-3 at the rate of a helium-3 extractor.


-Helium Compactor:(1x1):
Power Used:1
Build cost: regolith 20 helium-3 20
Resource Production: Turns helium-3 into a small amount of regolith

-Storage Tank(1x1):
Storage: Ore 1000 Regolith 2000 Helium-3 500 food 100 water 100
Build Cost: Ore 100 Helium-3 25

-Suspended Storage Tank(1x1): Built on Gas Deposits
Storage: Ore 1000 Regolith 2000 Helium-3 750 food 100 water 100
Build Cost: Ore 150 Helium-3 100

-Floating Helium-3 Condenser(1x1): Built on Gas Deposits. Looks like a water condenser but white and with a balloon on top.
Power Used:1
Resource Production: Turns atmosphere to helium-3 at the rate of a helium-3 extractor.


The fourth part of my ideas is a new race: Avians. These part people part birds have close ties with united earth, and use many similar technologies. Some of the items here are from the soaring cliffs idea listed above gas giants.

Avian Tech:
Low atmospheric zoology and rare animal zoology they can unlock the same way as humans.

New Resources (items):
-Feather: Used to make some flying vehicles.
-Bird Steel: A lightweight yet strong metal used in more advanced flying vehicles.

New Vehicles:
-Avian Rover: Works like a normal rover but can fly over buildings and terrain features, similar to the airborne lander.
Cost: ore: 5 wheel: 6 Feather: 6
Tech Required: Avian Base
Can Build: Small solar panel, small vehicle factory, small water pump, greenhouse.


-Avian Forest Rover: Works like a normal forest rover but can fly over buildings and terrain features, similar to the airborne lander.
Cost: wood: 40 wheel: 6 Feather: 6
Tech Required: Avian Base
Can Build: Fir Trees, Charcoal Hut, Wood Hut, Goat Pen, Chicken Coop, Water Well


-Avian Builder Bot: Works like a normal builder bot but can fly over buildings and terrain features, similar to the airborne lander.
Cost: ore: 15 wheel: 6 Feather: 6
Tech Required: Avian Base
Can Build: everything the builder bot can

-Avian Constructor: Builds some unique avian builds/
Cost: ore: 150 wheel: 8 gold:20 Feather: 6
Tech Required: Avian Base
Can Build: everything the builder bot can

Avian Lander Airborne: Airborne version of Avian Lander.


New Buildings:
-Avian Lander(1x1): Similar to the normal UE lander, the lander the Avians start with.
Power Produced:2
Housing: 2 colonists
Can Build: rover, forest rover, Avian rover, avian forest rover.

-Chicken Coop(2x2):
Description: "Avians like Chickens a lot, so they keep them as pets. Many think that avians evolved from chickens, although the more plausible theory is that they actually evolved from a white variant ravens."
Resource Production:Feather 10/minute
Cost: Wood:200 Ore:20
Built By: Forest Rover, Avian Forest rover
Requirements:Avian Base, 5 mil atmosphere


-Enclosed Chicken Coop(2x2): An enclosed version of the chicken coop
Resource Production:Feather 10/minute
Cost: Ore:2000, steel 250, gold 100
Built By: Builder Bot, Avian Builder Bot
Requirements:Avian Base or rare animal zoology, low atmospheric zoology


-Avian Solar Panel(1x1): A version of the normal solar panel that can be placed in the air or on land.
Power Production: 8
Cost: Ore:250, steel 10, feather 10
Built By: Buildr Bot, Avian Builder Bot
Requirements:Avian Base

-Wind Generator(1x1): A passive generator that must be built in the air.
Power Production: 12
Cost: Ore:250, steel 20,gold 10, feather 20
Built By: Avian Builder Bot
Requirements:Avian Base


Some WIP textures are below, along with a few pictures of what this would look like in-game:
Soaring Cliffs as Avian Race:

Gas Giant with United Earth:



Textures(WIP):
I'm making a texture pack with the textures if anyone's interested.
Cliff Terrain:

Cliff Face:

Air:


Gas Deposit:

How hard is Brutal? Is it harder than hard or easier than hard but harder than medium or harder than easier than medium? lol try saying that 5 times fast.

I am in the process of transferring from small/medium scale housing to truly large scale housing (i.e. Subterranean Housing Modules -- and later to arcologies) and I have had to re-arrange all my buildings. My colony looks like a total mess and considering the large scale of the new buildings it will get even more chaotic it seems.

Any good rules-of-thumb to keep things "pretty" without the colony looking like a industrial dystopia?

I am only on a medium map at the moment, but in time I will expand it.

High atmosphere effects on colony:

Bast has already developed penalties for high atmospheric levels but hasn’t turned them on yet. Hopefully my ideas are mendable with the penalty system that he has already put in place. Here are my ideas for high atmosphere penalties:

-Buildings damaged twice as fast once atmosphere is over 15 million. There is also the chance that once the structure is under 25% health, it has the chance to implode instantly for each 1% health lost after that point, regardless of whether the structure had remaining health. This is to simulate the fact that a structure under immense atmospheric pressure could just suddenly implode if part of it’s structure was weakened, even if that was the only part that was weakened.

-rovers have health and are damaged by the intense atmosphere and must be parked in shelter in order to be safe from the atmosphere and to repair damages. Rovers lose their health 5 times faster than structures. I would suggest that small, medium, and large rover/worker shelters be implemented for all races to replace the parking command on the rovers/workers. On other worlds, rovers/works could also have health that can be damaged, but only half as much as on a high atmosphere planet.

When a planet’s atmosphere is too high, a new resource, tallorium, will be the first step in massive atmosphere reduction. Tallorium is a (fictional) specific blend of superheated and super compressed metals that fuse over long periods of time and become stronger and harder than diamond. Tallorium will be naturally occurring on superheated, super atmosphere planets such as my planet idea below. In planets that don’t have naturally occurring Tallorium, the resource would appear as a higher tech resource that can be fabricated by blending other resources together, such as antanium and gold, or triantanium and uranium. Tallorium could also be used to make next gen buildings that are more advanced than alien buildings.

The second step would be to consume atmosphere to produce a new resource, Gas Canisters. One canister = 1 atmospheric unit. A high tech gas canister factory on a world where Tallorium needs to be fabricated would consume large amounts of atmosphere and small amounts of Tallorium to produce the canisters. These canisters could be used to produce h3 and water and can be used as a power source. These canisters could also be tradable and could be released in low atmosphere planets to raise the atmosphere at a fast rate. The canisters should be a very pricy product on GBT and should not be readily accessible to beginner colonies unless they are given gas canisters by their commonwealth. This aspect would allow those who have super advanced independent colonies to develop sub-colonies without the long hassle of terraforming each sub-colony. The gas canisters could also provide a way for a red planet colony to produce h3 without having to buy it. If you don’t like the idea of a red planet producing h3 on it’s own, or the idea of using gas canisters to raise a beginner planet’s atmo level rapidly, the Tallorium and gas canister system will still work without these two aspects.

- Since colonists could not survive walking around outside in a very high pressure atmosphere(since they would be crushed), even with their space suits on, I would create new avatars for them for going outside in a high pressure atmosphere. Perhaps they walk around in metal environmental suits and require a very small but constant supply of tallorium in addition to the water and food that they already require.

The Tallorium and gas canister system may be implementable before the penalties are turned on and before any high atmo planet types are created, and this would allow for players to get ready for the penalty activation since this system would lower atmosphere at a very high rate.

The heat terraforming aspect:

Adding a heat aspect to terraforming will make terraforming a more in-depth part of the game and the user will now have to handle controlling planetary heat as well as atmosphere. This will also open the door for new planet types and structures that take advantage of the planetary heat levels. However, it would prove to be a big change to the way each planet looks as it is terraformed, since now you would have to worry about what the soil looks like when heat is high and atmosphere is low, or vice versa. However, it would be well worth it in my opinion. Here are my ideas of the effects that high and low heat would have on a given colony.

-The optimal heat range would be between 5 mil and 15 mil, just like atmosphere. 0 heat means that the planet is at absolute zero, so I wouldn’t start any planets off at zero, maybe 500k or something.

-High heat would cause colonists to consume twice as much water. Any structures that require near-earth conditions will be destroyed and colonists will be less tolerant of long commute distances when the heat level is outside of the optimal heat range(too low or too high). Structures would also consume 1 water unit per 30 seconds in high heat. Structures and rovers/workers are damaged twice as fast and will need to be repaired more often.

-Low to earth-like heat is required for the growing of crystalline, while high to earth-like heat is required for the fabricating of Tallorium. So an earthlike planet could potentially produce crystalline and Tallorium simultaneously given the right resources.

-Low heat would cause colonists to consume twice as much food. Rover/worker and colonist speed is reduced by 1 and rover and structure build speed times are doubled. Resource production times could also be reduced by a reasonable amount.

A thermal energy plant could be used as a mid-level power supply and would consume a moderate amount of heat from the planet, whereas an absolute zero generator would absorb massive amounts of heat and power and would provide mid level research. A charcoal combuster would use charcoal to release heat into the atmosphere, while a nuclear agitation center would use the power of nuclear fission to produce massive amounts of heat.

The addition of the heat terraforming aspect is not required to implement the Tallorium and gas canister system.

Planet type suggestion: Hell
Atmosphere: 25 million
Temperature: 25 million
This planet will be for LIS and UE for now, but as bast adds races the planet might apply to them as well.
Difficulty: Medium for both human factions. Might be easier or harder for other factions to come.
-Structures and rovers/workers are damaged four times as fast as normal due to the stacked effects from high heat and high atmosphere.

-Instead of regolith, crystalline, or ore, Tallorium can be mined. Tallorium will be used to dig into the super compressed ground in search of ore, build basic structures at the start of the game, and is instrumental in gas canister production.

The player will need to use Tallorium to build a gas collector, which employs 1 person and produces gas canisters by sucking in atmosphere and consuming 1 tallorium for every canister made. The gas canisters can be turned into drinkable water via a structure called a water condensator. Then, a talloric greenhouse can be built with 150 Tallorium and an ore drill must be set up to mine ore through the thick and hard crust. The drill will cost 5,000 Tallorium and will indefinitely produce a small amount of ore at each interval, so many more drills will need to be built in order to jumpstart the colony. Once the planet’s atmosphere is reduced enough, ore fracking facilities can be built to supply a more efficient source of ore. Of course, in order to do all of that you need power, so a pressure turbine made with 500 tallorium would generate power, but would put air back into the atmosphere for each canister it opens.

After all of that is in place, the player can continue to follow the human path since they now have an ore supply as gold, aluminium, and uranium will still be present on the map.


So these are my ideas. Let me know if they are interesting are whether or not you want me to keep developing these ideas. I can't draw worth a crap but feel free to draw the structures, ground tiles, planet type symbols, and resource symbols that I mentioned on here if you think that at least some of these ideas should be added.

I build 2 medium recycling plants for ever 1 subterranean housing module. It's more than enough to reduce trash to zero, but the ratio will most probably change when I finally research mega habitats and upgrade to arcologies.

if you have 10's of arcologys, 10's of fantasy land arcologys, 100's of residential towers, you need 1000's of medium recycling centers. That's why I hoped Bast would add a better trash removing building

So, my idea is about a planet that start off at a high atmosphere and forces the player to survive in harsh environments until they lower the atmosphere to below 15 million. The pictures below are for the UE game style, I will include LIS later, but my pictures and description below should be good enough for bast to just plop everything into place in case he happens to like my idea enough to include it in the game.

Red crystalline deposit
Crystal resource indicator option in place of regular blue.
"Hell" rover, mines crystaline and builds basic structures.
The state of the ground when the game is started. The planet will have an atmosphere of 40,000,000. When my idea is done, LIS will have greater atmosphere reduction potential due to having access to diamonds. UE won't have it so easy here though.
at 30,000,000 atmosphere
at 20,000,000 atmosphere
at 15,ooo,ooo atmosphere.
Normal colonist wearing high atmo gear instead of low atmo gear.
Dark Micromine. white areas are transparent so don't pay attention to those. Only UE will use these.
Dark Regolith furnace. The white areas are transparent and the image will show up black against the dark ground.

This map will be brutal for UE but medium for LIS. The main reason being that UE doesn't have a brutal world and LIS needs some easier worlds. LIS will be able to use crystalline to gain direct access to ore, while UE will have to use crystalline to mine regolith, with they can convert to ore. Lis will also be able to access diamond mines because diamonds will be instrumental in making more effective terraforming structures than those of UE. As a result of LIS having better terraforming equipment due to diamonds, they will be able to reduce atmosphere faster but UE will be in it for the long haul.

Here are the playing styles for LIS and UE:

UE:
Start with one hell rover, which collects crystalline, and one dark lunar rover(image will be added) for regolith mining. Once you have 200 crystalline, build a dark micromine. Use the lunar rovers to collect regolith from that and continue to collect crystalline and build more dark micromines. Then, build a he3 extractor, regolith compactor, and a water extractor, which uses he3 and regolith, just like the normal one. Use crystalline to build a dark regolith furnace(image will be added) for more power and crystalline storage. Simply put, it's the same brutal playing style as the ice world except flipped on it's head and with UE instead of LIS.

The player will continue to build up their he3 and ore production as normal and build their colony normally, but they will have to hurry because they will have to build up their rum production to make more crytalline via the same green crystalline patches as ice planet. Once the player has enough rum production to produce enough crystalline, they will continue on the regular UE path. I will also be throwing in a crystalline generator later in the game, since a big colony would need to stop micromanaging eventually. There is not a big demand on crystalline yet but I'm sure that bast will come up with something to balance the scales, so a crystalline generator for UE/LIS should be added to the game.

Once the atmosphere is at 30 million, regolith extractors will become available, and that's when everything starts to get a lot easier for UE players, but from 40 to 30 million, UE will have a hard time. I will be making images for a more advanced UE atmosphere reducer soon. We already have small and medium reducers.


As for LIS, I will keep developing their strategy. I wanted to do the ultimate simplification for bast so that if he wanted to, he could plop this into the game and it would be just the same as the ice planet for LIS. All dark version structures on this planet would cost the same as original structures. For instance, a dark regolith furnace would produce as much power and consume as much regolith and cost as much crystalline as the regular regolith furnace. The same goes for the dark micromine and any future dark structures added for this planet. If I'm right, aside from the additional atmosphere reduction building that I am making, everything should be able to be plopped right into the game with no added work, and no numbers are needed on my part since the only new structures are dark structures that have the same stats as their lighter counterparts. That only reason for the dark versions is because the light versions would've looked out of place as they were white and blue while this planet is dark and red.

I have a bunch of ideas for this game but unfortunately I have no artwork. This is just a random dump of my ideas and feel free to add some, all, or none of these.

1. Wind Turbine: This would be a structure with power generation between the solar tower and nuclear plant. There is a pretty big drop off between the expensive cost of the nuclear power and the relative cheapness of the solar towers. I propose a wind turbine that would cost double the solar tower plus some microchips for better mid-game power generation.

2. In game federations: I have been thinking about how this could be implemented for a long time now. Federations would be created using the hall of congress plus a large fee of civics. The owner could add co-owners, change the federation from public to private, and manage the federation all from inside of the congress hall. Players could join federations from their capitols.

3. Desert planet: The desert planet would be a human planet with a difficulty of medium or hard. Many of the textures already needed are in the game already. (sand, sand dune, cacti, palm tree, etc.) This would be an easy world to just plop into the game.

4: Biodome: I dont have a lot of specifics on this, but it would be a large glass dome that provided entertainment and research.

5: Energy pavement: This would be an incredibly fast upgrade to dark pavement that would speed up rovers beyond belief. It would be black with animated neon arrows on it.

6: Junkyard planet: This map would be "hard" and would be accessible by the LIS and zolarg. At the beginning of this map you start with 20 million trash and 20 million atmosphere. You would have to use a detoxification plant, (more on that later) to get clean water for your colony. The upside of this colony would be that aluminum would be very easy to find early on and there would be many "Aluminum chunks" Scattered across the map to provide you with a large starting amount.

7: A way to destroy rivers: Not really that big of a thing to add, but on the earthlike planet the river blocks a significant part of the map and it would be really useful if the water wasn't infinite.

8: Alien planet: When humanity explores space not everything will always go according to plan. This alien planet would show the strangeness that could potentially be found beyond our planet. This map would have purple soil, thermal pools that would require a detox plant to get water from, and craters that would have random minerals in them. This planet would also have strange blue trees with more wood than fir trees. The starting atmosphere on this planet would be 1 million

9. Detoxification plant: This would be a structure to generate water on toxic worlds. The first tier would be 1x1 and generate a little water. The second tier would still be 1x1 but would produce 7 times the water. After that, you could use atmosphere condensers.

10. Living planet: This map would be medium to hard. It would take the form of a moon sized organism with an atmosphere of 5 Million at the start. You would need to use a detox plant to get water from the planet. This would offer strange resources early on that would be very valuable to different races. This map would be available to UE and Zolarg.

11. Natural Gas: A new resource used for mechanical buildings and massive rovers
Thanks for being patient with my ideas and the length of them. Again, i'm sorry there's no artwork or specifics about the buildings but there's a lot of ideas and I cant use Inkscape to save my own life. Be sure to leave a comment telling me what you think of these ideas

let me see if i understand this correctly having a pc on my wifi and having my android on the same wifi lets me gift between colonys on each device without ether colony being ( quote online ?)
so two colony I make say with the map editor could trade ( gift using this ?
PS just to add please add the ability to select map size to edit if possible as the medium map is well to me small lol
to me the map editor is the best compromise between the just plop it all to the having a reason to have resources being produced wile also having the ability to put as much starter resources as I like .
Its just the map size being medium that is the kicker large or extra large would really make map editing usfull .

Real estate agency:
for try to solve the fatigue problem, since even if i place the house close to the working place, some time the working place are occupied by far away colonists.. A structure with the purpose to help the colonists to move in a better house, close to working place. Like a freedrill, but only for colonists with far away job. Can be implemented with 2-3 level.


burner "flammy" bot:
for "fix" the tree/sugar problem. A bot able to burn tree, releasing atmosphere in the process.
Some idea for the level: 1 fast, many atmosphere release, 2 medium/fast, half atmosphere, 3, medium velocity, low atmosphere release

Well I am back with more ideas! And this one has been seen before on the old forums, but let us see it again.
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The Agots
A race of ape-like people from the planet of Augoot. Typically live in band societies and have low government structure, their curiosity and scienctific advancement are unheard of. They are also expert metallurgists.

Technology- Low at first, but gains fast

Government- Practically non-existent; run by scientists

Maps- Abandoned World, Water World, Habitable Moon, Desert World, Ice Planet, Earth-Like, Jungle

Habitable Moon- Medium; A moon of Augoot with an atmosphere. Tan surface with many trees, plants, animals. Introduces Bananas, Plants (food), animals (food), and several different types of trees. Regolith and gold are plentiful.

Jungle- Medium; A sugarcane, tree, banana, and plant rich land. Obsidian deposits for the map, with the occasional lava flow. Water is plentiful, as are animal herds. Regolith is abundant.

Gameplay- Will almost be like Antiquitas in style, as many buildings could be adapted from there.


Much more to come. Tell me what you think.

Hi,
sorry for my bad English (I'm french)

The Medium Recycling Center seems not to work correctly,
I have worker, trash, power... but no progress bar process and my trash grow fast...
and they no product Aluminium, it writes "infinity"/ minutes in the interface.

I play on the Ape Apps Luncher with the version 0.78, on a windows 8.

thanks you and again sorry for my English

Because I live on an asteroid world,I have to pay alot for my aluminum.So if I make a small recycling center for plastic or a medium for aluminum,soon it stops producing aluminum and plastic.If I deactivate this,and then turn it on again,it still does not produce any aluminum or plastic.

For the aluminum generator,they are super slow,only 5 people work at a time,(Worse than you think)and it takes super long to finish a round.And at the end?FOUR ALUMINUM.I can't survive if i have a Uranium Enrichment Facility,Robotics Facility,And An Artificial Sweetener Facility.

As of now,Aluminum costs are $44,603 per 250(Black Market Bazaar) and $17,842 per 100(Uranium Enrichment).I can't live like this and the only reason I have a good economy is because I have 50+Black Market Bazaars and I sell all alien artifact I see.

This topic isn't meant to be a complaint, it's just my ideas of what could be done to improve on the existing planets' designs. I realize that bast isn't working very much on new content and I support that, since what he is doing now is better for the game than making new content. I just figured that I would cover all of the planets for my planet-hub topic. That way people can get my opinion of all the planets.


earthlike Planet specific ideas:

earthlike planet summary: I think that this planet is fine as it is. It's supposed to be a training planet that gives the user the perfect conditions to build a colony, so I think it should be left alone. There are some ideas that I have regarding all planets that also apply to this planet, but I don't have any ideas regarding this specific planet. I do believe that every race should have this planet type so the player can learn to play this race under the best conditions, with the exception of zolarg because they already have a world with the best conditions to grow, their just a harder species to manage overall. reptilians and LIS get the abandoned world, which is earthlike but doesn't have any ore.

Waterworld specific ideas:

Waterworld summary: This planet is really fun to play because you have to be carful how you design your colony layout. I wouldn't chancge anything about this planet and I'm not going to suggest anything because all of the ideas that I have bast is already going to implement soon. There are other ideas that pertain to all planets that apply here, but no specific ideas come to mind when thinking about this planet.

red planet specific ideas:

Red Planet Summary: I really like the simplicity of the map, and I like the laid-back feel that you get when playing it. I also like how quickly it allows you to grow your colony. There is not much more that I would like to see added to this planet aside from the general ideas that I have below that don't apply to any planet. This planet is very well-designed.

red badlands decorations: I think that the red planet map should generate decorations that resemble badlands structures, or weird rock structures that form because wind wears it down into awkward shapes. This should make the map aesthetically pleasing.

generated lake-bed rivers: per the dry lakebed tile idea below, i think that rivers of those tiles should be generated on red planet maps. This allows the red planet to become just like an earthlike planet once terraformed, with rivers that produce infinite amounts of water. It gives the map a more dynamic feel.

Dust storms: These planetwide storms can last for months and would make it more difficult to see your colony. Solar panels would stop working, but you could implement a windmil to take advantage of the storms and it would produce more during these storms than normally. You already have added the ability to block out light by subtracting alpha from an overlaying object to simulate night time. You could create another overlay object for storms and give it a reddish-tan hue. Then just add moving particle affects and wind sounds and your done. These should disappear once the planet is terraformed. There shouldn't be a damage factor to these storms as the dust is too fine to really wear anything down.

Dynamic Terraformation: I think that this planet type specifically could benefit from dynamic terraforming and should be the first to receive such a feature if added since it's one of the most played maps.


Lunar specific ideas:

Lunar Summary: Lunar world is my favorite map because you can jumpstart your colony before you even get your first immigrant. I like the fact that it's terraformable and the regolith challenge is fun as well. There are a few features that could be added to make this world more immersive though.

Jagged rock decos: Since a lunar planet has no atmosphere, it has no wind on it's surface to smooth and erode rocks, so you should see some really jagged rock formations. I think this would add some aesthetics.

craters: I think that large circular patches of darker terrain tiles should exist on the map. These terrain tiles would act the same as lakebed tiles in that they will become water tiles as atmosphere increases. Craters should be random sizes and distances between. I would even have them generate partially off of the map and across region maps to give a very appealing region view. This may might that craters could envelop most or all of some maps, and some maps might get no crater tiles at all, but that's the beauty of it. the player should also have the option to fill in a crater tile or water tile using regolith where they would otherwise use ore on other planets. The player should be able to turn regular tiles into crater tiles as well with the cost of money.

meteor showers: these showers would pummel structures below periodically. Any that land on empty tiles could generate regolith nodes and could have the chance to generate mini-craters that would fill with water upon terraforming, this is why I think we should have the ability to turn crater tiles to regular tiles, and vise versa. The damage from these meteors shouldn't be catastrophic, but it should cause some damage depending on the structure. These meteors should stop once atmosphere is above 1 mil.

Atmosphere leach: Since most planets like the moon aren't big enough to keep an atmosphere forever(there are exceptions), there should be a significant drain on atmosphere that must be compensated for. It could also be a benefit if a colony's atmosphere is too high though. A drain of 5k per minute would be a challenge at first, and you would have to beat that mark in order for condensors to operate.


Forest Planet ideas:

Forest Summary: I don't have much to say about this world, it's pretty straightforward albiet annoying at the start. Not really a big benefit to this world aside from the fact that you don't have to mess with the atmosphere at first until you get bigger. I'd honestly play abandoned before forest any day. Here are some ideas I have in mind though:

Rivers: this should be an addition. Any forest world requires lots of water in order for trees to grow.

mega trees: i think that mega-trees should generate on the map at first and begin to spread. Players could try to preserve these so that they'll have a huge supply later on. Once they they're gone, they're gone.

Asteroid planet ideas:

Asteroid summary:
I like the asteroid world. It's just like lunar, but harder since you don't have alu nodes. I used to play this world back before we had ways to get infinite diamonds. Might take a crack at it again to see how far I get. I have a few ideas regarding this world.

craters: the same concept as the lunar planet.

meteor showers: the same concept as lunar planet

Extreme atmosphere leech: asteroids are definately not large enough to keep an atmosphere for long. Because of this, they are drained by 50k per minute. 100 minutes is all it takes for an earthlike atmosphere level to drop to 0. Major benefit later in the game though when atmosphere is increased rapidly by pollution.

Awkward rotation: An asteroid has a very randomized shape in real life. it can be elongated, flat, and even spherical. Because of this, days and nights on this planet last for random times. Short nights lower colonist energy. Short days reduce happiness. long nights can increase colonist energy and long days can raise happiness. This amount increased or decreased would only apply if the length of a night or day goes past the minimum or maximum limits. if a limit is exceeded, the same amount of energy or hapiness is taken away or given, no matter how far past the limit a day or night is.

Abandoned World Ideas:

Abandoned Summary: I really like the abandoned world map, but my idea for a twilight themed abandoned world would add a mystic and ancient feel to the map. I'd like to see a much darker themed map than the light and cheery theme that it has now.

Rivers: aside form the twilight idea I would love to see rivers on this map.

Ice planet ideas:

Ice summary: I like the ice planet because it's a challenge to get through the crystalline bottleneck. I do have some ideas though:

glacial/ crystal decos: a slew of icy/crystalline decorations would look good for this planet.

unstable melting: When you heat up an ice planet, there's no telling where the oceans and rivers will form and where the actual land will be. Ice melts very unpredictably, so there should be no indication as to whether each tile is a lakebed or regular tile, but they should both still be there and have the same texture. It should be set up to where rivers will form as if randomly and instantly. This would be part of the real-life challenges of terraforming an ice planet, so would make sense here. Sometimes your colony gets destroyed just like in lava world, sometimes you get lucky.

Underwater crystal farm: This new building would need to straddle water and land and would be four-way rotatable so it can be placed in any orientation as long as the front 4 tiles are on water and the back 2 squares are on land. It is a 3x2 structure, and it consumes moderate amounts of water, crystalline, and alcohol to constantly produce large amounts of crystalline. The concept behind it is that some crystals grow faster in a water solution with the nutrients it needs to grow. Water also allows the crystals to grow much larger because gravity is much weaker in water as we all know. The fact that the structure would have to straddle land and water means that the planet will need to terraformed before a player can place on of these and get rid of their green crystals.

desert world:

desert summary: I don't have much to say about this map, haven't played reptilians that much. I do think that it could use some aesthetics though, just one flat plane of land is nothing to get all excited about. But here are some of the ideas that I have:

Yellow badlands decos: weird yellow rock forms, crackly ground, rough patches, and some shrubbery and cacti. These should randomly dot the landscape and would really up the aesthetics on this map.

Tar(oil) pits: instead of water flowing through the map, tar pits would give it a more desert feel, as you find these pits naturally in deserts. just like rivers on the earthlike planet yield infinite water, these pits should yield infinite oil. The major downfall with this benefit is that you need workers to collect the oil, and that can be pretty tedious and may slow down performance.

raise the atmosphere: Since deserts are supposed to be hot, we should raise the atmosphere to above earthlike. This also corrosponds to my thermal idea below. In addition to this, I would recommend adding a fully terraformed stage where atmosphere is reduce to between 5 mil and 15 mil. I'm not saying that deserts don't exist when atmosphere is at perfect levels because the saharrah wouldn't exist if that were true. It's just that since bast still hasn't added any thermal or moisture level factors to terraforming, I thought that lowering the atmosphere was good enough to simulate raising the moisture level and lowering thermal levels to make the planet cooler and wetter.

dry-lakebed tiles: I think that the dry lakebed tile idea would particularly help this planet as once it is terraformed from dessert to earthlike, you'll have rivers flowing through the landscape.
Sandstorms: Not to be confused with dust storms, the storms are much shorter, yet can be devastating to colonists and buildings. These storms should cause colonist sickness, slow down movement, and accelerate the decay of structures by a certain amount for the duration of the storm. Depending on the direction of the storm, walls placed on the map will block the storm from getting into your cities. It's best to surround your cities with walls so that you get as little exposure to the storms as possible, just an extra challenge. These storms should cease once atmosphere is reduced to earthlike and life is brought back to the planet.

Lava planet ideas:

lava summary: I liked this planet at one point, but I think it's rather pointless to play being that it doesn't have an end-goal and you're colony is never safe no matter how far down the atmosphere goes. My list of lava ideas on my planet hub topic should cover all of the ideas that I have for this planet, and they all still stand.

Fissure vents: These gigantic cracks in the planet spew forth ash and toxic gas into the atmosphere. Because of this, atmosphere is increased by 2 thousand atmosphere a minute, even if the atmosphere is reduced to between 5 and 15 mil, atmosphere will still pile up, requiring you to build more buildings that use up atmosphere to balance it out. The only thing that would need to be added is a passive loop that continuously counts down 60 seconds and then adds 2k to the atmosphere number value. Good luck terraforming this planet.

ideas for all existing planets:

Dry Lakebed Tiles: I've suggested this a few times, but basically dry lakebed tiles should replace water tiles in low and high atmosphere planets. These tiles can be built on, but watch out, because when atmosphere goes over 250k or falls under 30 million, these tiles will turn to water and any buildings on them will be destroyed. There should be an apparent difference in color shade or texture between regular tiles and the dry lakebed tiles. remaning Ice deposits should also turn into water deposits at the same atmosphere level.

Dynamic terraforming: I've mentioned this a couple of times too. It's simple, if atmosphere goes too low, the terraformed planet becomes barren, just as if it were a red or lunar planet; if atmosphere goes too high, then the planet becomes hotter, becoming first a dessert and then eventually a lava planet, with all the eruptions and lava spreading we know and love. . I also think that atmosphere requirements for all atmosphere stages for region games should be multiplied by the number of tiles on a region. This gives the player a longer playthrough and also encourages them to develop cities on every tile. I think that downside is worth it and it would be a fun challenge to work towards. I think that aside from the tiles changing texture, trees should generate across the map on empty space once atmosphere either rises past 5 mil or falls past 15 mil. I also think they should disappear while outside of those ranges.

Thermal factor: I feel like there should be some sort of challenge regarding keeping your colonists at a good temperature. Perhaps you could add a meter in statistics that indicates thermal level of the entire colony. Too hot or cold and your colonists will become sick and loose energy and hapiness. An earthlike planet, or any planet that's been terraformed to between 5 mil and 15 mil, will not affect the meter at least, but too much atmosphere and the meter will start to go up and too little atmosphere will start to subtract heat from the meter. You should be able to build coolers or heaters to supplement the loss or gain of temperature. Currently most planets start out at no atmosphere, which means that they will start out cold. Lava is the only planet that would add the the thermal meter at this time but I think that the desert type planet should have high atmosphere so it can add to the meter.

Regions acting as mc campaigns: Now, some people would disagree with me on this, but I think it's totally fair to call region mode and sort of "campaign mode." This is because with regions, you get a longer playthrough and it takes longer for you to develop the space given to you. I also think it's fair that region mode requires premium, as most well-developed apps offer a free trial(single map mode) and full version with campaign mode(region mode). Some of yall might disagree. but here are the main ideas that I have in mind:
- design random mandatory goals to have a chance to pop up for each tile a map occupies that grant the player money, research. civics, happiness, or other resources, kind of like quests. But these would be more like story-line quests. a medium map would contain four of these quests. These should take a decent amount of time to complete and should make the game progress slower.
- design smaller optional side-quests that pop up randomly occasionally and grant smaller bonuses.
- each tech should require a certain number of complete story-line quests before being unlocked, even if you have enough research. There would be only one quest per tile so this would encourage players to develop all the tiles to complete all of the available story quests.
-Make individual map progression depend on the completion of story quests. For instance, you can add a population cap that unlocks after the quest is complete, and for medium maps with four quests, you could increase the cap in increments to allow the player to develop further after each quest, but not indefinitely until all quests are complete.

Overall I think that these ideas for campaign mode should add a very interesting element to regions mode and would make it more worthwhile and entertaining to play and a player might be entertained for a very long time before becoming bored.




But anyway, those are my ideas. I wanted to go over each planet so that everything was covered in my planethub topic. I'll paste this link so yall can access it easily. Let me know what you think and which ideas you like/dislike.

Well, I always start out on a medium map for more space. Usually you build up your one colony and it has all of the buildings it needs to grow on that one map at first. But then once you start growing, you'll end up delegating different responsibilities to other maps and building tons of the same kind of buildings on them so that each map is specialized, which means you'll be able to start deleting things on your original map, so you could start off with a small map as well because of that.

Usually what I do to the original starter map once I've delegated almost everything else to other maps is turn it into a Capital, with government, commercial, and tourist buildings covering the map, so I want a medium size map in order to add absolutely tons of tourism.

You can probably guess what the above structures would be used for. A border station would allow you to transfer colonists from 1 map to another. An interplanetary transport station would allow you to send colonists to other member of your commonwealth in the event that they may need more colonists than they can effectively produce themselves.

Border Station:

The idea behind how the border station works is simple. It's a 1x3 structure and you place it on the edges of a region map. Being that it's a 1x3 structure, it'll show up on any maps that are right next to the current map in the direction of the edge that it's on. So basically, if you built it on the right edge of the map, the map directly to the right of the current map would also have the same border station in it. In cases where one medium map meets up with 2 small maps, you would only need to build you stations on 2 different spots on the same edge, one above the center of the map, and one below, so that they can show up on both the small maps as well as the medium map.

So these buildings would have a value in them that you can set. This value determines how many colonists are to be stored in the station. A basic station would only store 30-50, but more complex stations could allow tens of thousands to be stored. The station would pick from the population randomly, regardless of position or wealth, and store them. It can only store the colonists for 5 minutes of game time before releasing them back into the same map, so be sure to close the map and open the destination map right away. Once the destination map is open, the release countdown is reset and you have 5 minutes to change you mind. Otherwise, there sould be a button to release the colonists immediately into the destination map.

This feature would be very useful in that it would allow users to send colonists to areas of a region colony that needed them, potentially preventing a colony from dying out. You would also be able to jumpstart a new map by sending lots of colonists over to a map that's already had it's city built but doesn't have any colonists. It would also get rid of the need for cloning facilities on maps that are supposed to focus on producing specific resources. You could also have a map that speciallizes in human cloning and transfers it's colonists to other maps.

Interplanetary trasport station:

Now for the second structure. This one is fairly simple. Think of it as "gifting" some colonists to another member of your commonwealth. The transactions cost civics, starships, oil, food, water, and money in amounts depending on the amount of colonists being transported. Here is another place where liquid nitrogen could come in handy, because people would need to be put in cryosleep. Once the transaction is completed, the map sending the colonists will experience the drop in population, and then the receiving colony's map(whether a region map or a single mapped colony) would receive the colonists as a gift, in the same way that they receive gifted resources. A colony could play a very important role in boosting the population of it's commonwealth. It could also be a way to reduce your population in case it get's out of hand instead of killing them off.

@Ansom, if you're going to vote no, could you please tell us why?

Seriously, I have a regions colony and I have to devote an entire medium map to tree farms just for my wood production to be "adequate." And I know there isn't a better wood producing building out there. So wood is a different situation than clay. I understood your opinion about clay, that there's already a better way to obtain it, but wood has been left in the dark for ages without any upgrades to further save space. Are you going to tell me that a civilization that is capable of mass producing uranium should never be able to mass-produce wood, especially being that it's one of the most used resources in the game due to the charcoal/oil/plastic/toys resource chain? Ore can be produced quickly using only small amounts of space in end-game, and even steel, gold, uranium, aluminum, water, and food can be produced in large amounts using a relatively small amount of space. So who forgot to invite wood to the space saving party?

And what of charcoal? Charcoal is needed a lot as well. Yeah, sure, we have factories that produce a pretty good amount and we don't NEED a better version, but do you honestly think we should have to devote an entire medium map to charcoal production along with wood production just to feed our oil and plastic chain? Those advanced oil factories won't feed themselves. Adding obsidian in the mix also gives obsidian another use, where right now I don't see it used very much at all.

The alien wood monolith was just a funny idea that I had that I thought would give a cool effect. My colony could always benefit from using more effects. I know that we have plenty of wood storage as is, so I understand why you would vote no on this one.

The last two were also just ideas that I thought would be pretty useful in end-game and would save space, since end-gamers need to save as much space as possible. I figured people like you who have end-game colonies would enjoy such a feature. However, the fact that they can produce diamonds and crystalline en mass if you overproduce might scare some people and I can see why you voted no.


I just want to see my colony grow into a more dynamic game. It's still trapped in a rigid square, and it needs to break out if bast wants to see more interest. I don't want to see my colony die out, and that's what I've been seeing this past year, so many people have left that this forum is practically dead. All I want to do is influence my colony for the better and pinpoint places of imbalance so that the game can improve and become more appealing. I'm not looking for a joy ride for my colony, I like a challenge, I'm just trying to help.

I see a lot of things missing for zolarg, although I'm still able to play the game to some extent. I feel like there are many resources that need alien or unholy versions. Below are some resources that I think need a better way to produce them:

Food: food is ridiculous, you need an entire small map full of the food fortification plants just to support 40-50k colonists over several maps. Humans can do much better as they have the tall farms that produce 500 food every couple of seconds, or the food processing factories that just spew out food.

water: just like food, you end up having to create an entire small map filled with these things in order to support your colony as it grows. Eventually, I'll end up needing another map full of them. This definitely needs to change. Humans can produce an overwhelming amount of water in end-game, even to the point of causing the atmosphere to plummet, why should zolarg be stuck with such an inferior water production

Ant paste: This one too, I have a map full of paste mixers and they still don't produce very much ant paste. Usually with basic resources like this you can usually get to the point where you produce more than you can use in just one small map, but these paste mixers are the devil in end-game.

Antanium: This one too depletes very fast even with a small map filled with them, but not nearly as fast an ant paste. Still, ant paste is for zolarg what steel is to humans, and we have a steel alien factory, so I think these should have an alien counterpart as well.

Aluminum: I think it would be nice if zolarg got their own unique alien aluminum gen that took antanium to generate aluminum. UCM's can churn out aluminum, if you build an entire medium map full of them that is. Who has time to build that many? And don't tell me that we can just build mines, because humans can generate everything automatically at end-game, and there's nothing they can't mass produce.

Wood: we're still stuck in the dark ages with wood, growing and cutting down mega trees like an idle champ I am. My idea in the "fleshing out zolarg" thread in the ideas forum mentions a building that can combine paste, cloth, and antaura to make wood. I personally don't care how much @basteklein makes this thing produce as wood isn't too high in demand, we just need a way to automate that resource so we don't have to keep resorting to mega-trees.

housing: I feel like better housing is in order. The worship mounds do the trick but you have to spam them.

Colonists: We need a better way to get colonists faster. Perhaps in bigger housing, colonists could be produced quicker.

Importing/exporting: zolarg need the third and fourth tier customs centers. I recoomend the fourth being some sort of mystic gate that acts just like the stargate and consumes antaura. But zolarg really need to be able to export more than 1k resources at a time, especially if you're trying to prepare for a medium-map sized project and need several million of each resource and you have the money to import those resources.

Starships: We have the tech, but we don't have the means. This is the end of the game currently, and I feel like it should be more like the halfway point.

triantanium: I could've swore that zolarg were the first to get triantanium, yet I can't find any buildings for zolarg that produce it. I'd say that we should be able to produce it at some point. After all, zolarg invented antanium.

Charcoal,plastic,steel, robots, toys, paintings, brick, pottery, microchips, and instructions are all missing from zolarg. I feel like zolarg could use a lot of these in their own ways, but I also think that they shouldn't have access to everything that humans do, or else playing them would be just the same as playing humans in end-game. still, at least some of these resources would be useful.

I also feel like some of the resources in the game are lacking in ways to use them, so I just sell those to make money as I get them or gift them to my other colonies.


That's all I have for now, but I'm pretty sure I can come up with more if i think further about it. Those were the major areas anyway. i realize that zolarg are still under construction, so I understand why these aren't in the game, but I feel like zolarg has been put off for too long, and it may be one of the things that is causing the lack of interest from people of late. I recommend finishing them before doing anything extensive on reptilians side as people that have zolarg colonies have been waiting much longer than reptilian colonies have.

Today I am releasing the very first update to the Colony Wars beta, v0.2.0! This update cranks up the firepower a bit, with the addition of two new units - the Rocket Infantry and the Light Tank!

Now that there is more than just simple bullets flying across the battlefield, the dynamics are starting to change a little bit. After testing, I had to crank up the hit point values on most of the structures, since the light tanks were able to just roll on into a base and destroy it with minimal effort. It can't be that easy, especially since Medium and Heavy tanks will be coming soon as well!

This update also adds one new map, Red Canyon, which is a larger 6 player map taking place on the "Red Planet" surface.

In addition, unit and building costs now appear in the construction sidebar, and several bugs have been fixed.

In the coming updates, I will continue to add new units and structures. The next planned structures are the Tech Center, which will unlock the Ore Fracking Operation. It will also unlock the Medium Tank, the Troop Transport, and the Engineer, a unit which will be able to capture enemy buildings, or repair your own buildings.

Also, at some point I will be activating Power and Silo requirements. Right now you can just harvest forever without running into storage limits, and buildings do not drain your power reserves. Activating these will be another big change to the dynamic of the game.

Anyway, the update is now live on the website and the Ape Apps Launcher, and should be hitting Android within the day. Enjoy the game, thank you for playing, and keep leaving that feedback! Thanks!

https://apps.ape-apps.com/colony-wars/

This post is basically like my old post(link below) but some of the ideas below were outdated and had to be refined, so here we are.

https://www.ape-apps.com/viewpage.php?p=3932

Firstly, before I present any new ideas, I want to say that I am supportive of bast's focusing on game quality over content. I also don't expect any of these ideas to just be copied and pasted into the game as is, although it would be nice. The main reason for why I create these posts full of ideas is so that bast has a lot of ideas to think about and gain inspiration from when developing his own ideas for mc. I'm going to try my best to generalize my ideas without trying to name specific buildings and units to be added, as it's bast's job to think of the specifics. Now with that out of the way, let's begin.

The rigidity of MC's atmospherics:
My colony is one of my favorite games to play, so I mean no offense in saying this, but I have to say it. My colony is very rigid when it comes to how the planets respond to terraforming. For most planets, you get from 0 to 5 mil atmosphere and then the planet is fully terraformed, and stays that way even if you run out of atmosphere or accumulate 500 mil atmosphere. There's no consequence for failing to manage the atmosphere, and the terraformation process is very short, in fact, it's so short that you can terraform the planet relatively quickly just with industry alone. You should not be able to do that, and the journey of terraforming a planet should be much much longer than it is now, especially for regions. In real life, it takes hundreds of years, an unimaginable amount of money, and countless workers to terraform a planet. While I'm not saying it should take hundreds of years to terraform a planet in mc, I do think a significantly larger amount of effort, resources, and time should be required than what is now. Also, another way that mc is rigid is that it only takes into account atmosphere when there are other factors to consider, like heat, moisture/sea level, gravity, radiation exposure, Planetary core condition, ozone level, etc. This thread will discuss all of these factors as well. Now, with all of that out of the way, let's talk about some general atmospheric dynamics.

General Dynamics:

Step one: In order to get a good start on smoothing out the rigidity of mc's atmospherics, we need to start by raising the atmosphere requirements for each atmosphere stage.This elongates the journey of terraformation. For instance, stage -2(microbial stage) could be at 1.25 mil atmosphere, stage -1(plant stage) could be at 5 mil, and stage 0(earthlike) could be at 25, so we would be making the process 5 time longer. Now some would say "but that's boring, if it lasts longer, we'd just be doing the same thing for much longer," and I would agree with you. That's why I've come up with some ideas of different features to add to each stage to make each stage feel like a giant leap for your colony, but we will talk about those later.

Step two: We need to add upper limits to each stage that must be met in order to be in that stage. The upper limit for each stage is equal to the lower limit of the stag above it. This ensures that if you drain your atmosphere, you will also digress through the stages until you eventually end up with a barren planet, no matter what planet you start on. if you have any buildings that require a certain stage greater than -3, those should deactivate once their requirements are no longer met. This is what I was talking about regarding consequences for not managing your atmosphere, but since industry always aids in increasing atmosphere, and since the stages are much further apart, it would also be 5 times easier to maintain that it currently is, and currently it's very difficult to keep atmosphere between 5-15 mil in end-game, however, keeping atmosphere between 25-75 mil is a different story.

Step three: add the upper stages. These stages determine what happens when atmosphere get's too high. Stage 1 could start at 75 mil and would cause any buildings with stage 0 requirements to shut down. Stage 2 would be at 150 mil mil and would cause any buildings that require stage -1 requirements to shut down. Stage 3 is the highest atmospheric stage and could start at 500 mil and would shut down any buildings with stage -2 requirements. So think of the stages as a bullseye, with nested rings. the closer you get to the center, the more buildings you can build and the more earthlike a planet is, but the farther away you are to each side, the more barren a planet is. So all buildings will have 1 out of the following four requirements: -3 or 3(barren stages), -2 or 2(microbial stages), -1 or 1(plant/fish stages), and 0(animal stage/earthlike). Additionally, the upper stages could add haziness in increasing density to simulate a dense atmosphere. So you could tell the difference between a barren planet with no atmosphere and a barren planet with too much atmosphere.

Step four: add in special effects. Each stage should look different that all of the others. In a way, mc already does this by changing the ground texture, but I believe that more differences should be added. For instance, the dry lake-bed terrain that I've spoke of several times could come in handy here. in stages -3 and 3, these tiles will resemble dry lakebeds, but in any other stage, these tiles turn into water. it's the same for water that is already added to some planet types, if you were to drain waterworld of its atmosphere or overload it with atmosphere, the entire map should dry up and leave you free to walk about and build where the water used to be. In stages -2 and 2, plants cannot exist, so trees would disappear and most farms would become inoperable. upon entering stage -1 or 1, trees could be generated around the map and would be left to spread around the map. That's really all that I have for this step for now, but I have an even bigger idea coming up soon.

Heat:

This section discusses ways that we could implement a heat aspect to the terraformation process to make reaching an earthlike state more challenging. I'd like you to remember the bullseye example that i talked about earlier, but now instead of a 1D line, going from left to right(atmosphere), add a second line going up and down(heat). This system creates an imaginary grid that your planet's status is on. Not only can your planet be hot and high and low pressure, but it can be high heat with low pressure, or low heat with high pressure, or vice versa. This greatly increases the factor of choice when it comes to terraforming your planet. This illustration is just to show you how these two factors of terraforming can be tied together.

The combination of heat and atmosphere exponentially increase the possibilities for new planet types. There would be consequences for not maintaining heat as well, along with rewards for keeping heat and atmosphere at an optimal medium. New structures would be needed in order to manage heat levels, as well as buildings that take advantage of colder or warmer climates. In fact, heat could also be a biproduct that's released by all buildings that release atmosphere as a biproduct. This would simulate a more accurate global warming effect. As for special effects, I wouldn't go too far out, but maybe give the lighting a dark red hue that grows denser as heat increases, and a light-blue hue as heat decreases. Obviously these should have limits, or else the entire screen could turn opaque red if too much heat is gained. Maybe some black particles for ash can be seen falling on hot planets at a certain heat level, while snow, which already has its own particle effect, could fall on cold planets at a certain heat level.

If atmosphere is low, heat will slowly decrease, if atmosphere is high, heat will slowly increase.


Water:

This section talks about a sea level feature. This third element adds a 3rd dimension to the bullseye diagram, creating yet exponentially more options and outcomes. Bast can choose how to display or organize these three factors. It really doesn't matter how they are displayed, even if it's just in the form of three separate status bars, the bullseye illustration is just to show you how all three of these elements tie together

The basis for the effect that sea level has on a planet revolves around 3 additional terrain types, high ground which is mountainous territory, middle ground for hilly territory, the main mc ground that we build on now would be known as low ground, which is optimal sea level. And finally, when sea level depletes, a new lower level is revealed, called the dry lakebed level, and the water eventually disappears, leaving a ground of dried lake bed in it's place. However, if sea level grows too much, it'll become level with middle ground, then high ground, and then eventually the entire map/region will be covered in water. When water covers a level, everything on that level is utterly destroyed except for any buildings that are supposed to be in the water, and vice versa, if a water building is built on water, but then the sea level recedes, and the tile that it was built on becomes land, it will also be destroyed.

Obviously we would need buildings that can manage sea level and buildings that can take advantage of high or low sea level. If heat is low, water will become ice, if heat is high, sea level will slowly boil off and recede.

Gravity:

Gravity should be a less-important feature to mc, but I still think it would enhance the terraforming system. Each planet starts off with the same atmosphere, heat, and sea level depending on planet type, but regardless of planet type, gravity should be randomized upon planet generation, creating a different result for each new game. This simulates how planets can be of the same type but vary greatly in size and mass. Too much gravity reduces colonist tolerable commute distance and increases heat due to more volcanic activity, not enough gravity will lower colonist maximum health and slowly drain the atmosphere. Certain buildings cannot be built when exposed to certain gravity levels, and some end-game solutions to undesired gravity level should be available.

radiation, core condition, and ozone levels:

Radiation should be fixed in it's amount depending on the planet type. This could allow for more planet type varieties. Radiation isn't like all of the other factors; instead of there being a happy medium for radiation, no radiation is good, so in perfect conditions, a planet has no radiation. Radiation at any level will damage colonists over time. Now, there are two ways to solve the radiation proble, and both methods are naturally used on earth:

Raise ozone level: In real life, the ozone layer of our atmosphere protects us from some radiation, but not all types of radiation. Perhaps you could add buildings that consume atmosphere and other resources to produce ozone, and then the higher the ozone layer, the less radiation exposure you have.

Secondly, in real life, our molten iron core creates a magnetic field that gaurds from most kinds of radiation. You can accomplish this in mc simply by adding more buildings that benefit from the deep digging tech and consume heat and steel to increase core health. The high the core health, the lower the radiation level.

Whichever way is simplest to you. Just know that certain buildings shouldn't be available when radiation goes over certain points. higher radiation should leech away atmosphere and increase planetary heat.

biospheres:

This section will be more complicated than the former sections. Biospheres adds a very dynamic feature to terraforming, and this feature makes each stage of terraforming feel like it's an accomplishment. First off, let's do a quick description. Biospheres is all about living organisms and how they interact and support each other and the environment. This system would allow you to create and customize(to an extent) the appearance and abilities of the organisms and have them spread over the map. The system would have two main categories, land and sea, and would have four sub-categories under that for microbes, plants, herbivores, and carnivores. Each organism produces support for the next tier of organism based on the abilities you give it, and can also be given abilities to affect the environment in certain ways. Each creature has a maximum amount to the abilities that you can give it, and the more abilities you give to an organism, the more support it requires from organisms from the tier below. Some organisms will be hardier than others, and some will need more support than others. The support system goes like this:

Microbes don't need to rely on support and provide support for plants.
Plants need support from Microbes and provide support for herbivores.
Herbivores needs support from plants and provide support to carnivores. Carnivores need support from both herbivores and other carnivores., as their support adds to the same type as herbivores.

The way that we will apply this system to each stage will be by requiring different atmosphere, heat, and sea levels for each catagory of organism. Seeing unique looking trees and grass spreading across the map and seeing creatures roam about the land would be amazing, especially if it happened in stages.

In stage -3 and 3, the planet is barren, but in stage -2 and 2, you can start utilizing microbes to produce many different resources and terraform, and in stages -1 and 1 you can start using plants, which opens up many different possibilities for resource production, since you should be able to farm your own custom plants for different resources. Then in stage 0, you gain access to animals, which you should be able to farm your own unique animals for different resources.

each organism, whether on land or in the sea, needs to be maintained. You must have enough land slots in order to create a new land organism, and the same applies to sea organisms and slots. Slots are given by structures that maintain the organisms, and more advanced structures have more slots. This prevents a player from easily amassing creatures that can quickly produce a certain resource or terraform the planet quickly. Each organism also has a health percentage that determines how well it's species is doing. If the percentage reaches 0, the species goes extinct and it's slot is freed up for another organism, but the higher the health percentage, the more support a species produces, the more effective you can be at exploiting it for resources, and the more effect it has on the planet. The health percentage has no upper limit, but it depends on how much support it has and how suitable the environment is for it.

Hopefully I've described this system well, but i believe that this system can bring life to mc and make it a more dynamic game and should increase it's value as a game.

Conclusion:

To wrap this up, I think we all have witnessed how rigid mc's terraforming system is and I think that these ideas would expand the possibilities for more planet types and would make the game more of a journey to terraform than just a waiting game. I hope everyone else feels the same, but once again, I don't put these ideas out there just for people to agree with me or for every detail to be copied and pasted into the game, I do it to provide ideas for bast to think about when he runs out of them.

Today the 3rd beta, v0.3.0, of Colony Wars is available on Web, the Ape Apps Launcher, and on Android! This update adds a few new engine features and a bit of new content.

Firstly, on Android devices, the back button is now handled properly, which was badly needed.

Next, there is a new structure, the Research Lab. The Research Lab unlocks two new units, the Medium Tank and the Engineer. The Medium Tank is simply a larger and more powerful (and more expensive) version of the current Light Tank, so I don't need to explain much on that. The unit with the associated engine changes is the new Engineer.

The Engineer is a slow, weak, and defenseless unit, but if you let one sneak into your base, you could be in a bit of trouble. If the Engineer enters an enemy building, the building will be captured for the Engineer owner's team. This can be devastating if the unit enters an expensive building or even the Lander.

There is still a ton that needs to be added to the game, and I have gotten a lot of good suggestions and feedback through the forum, the Play store, and the in-game 'Submit Feedback' button, so please keep the ideas coming. Things that are currently on the list include Navy and naval units, air units, more techs, more types of infantry and tanks, etc. Once the United Earth faction is built out, I will start on the LIS. I plan on each faction having at least one unique super weapon, such as a nuke or giant laser cannon or something similar. Basically something with a countdown timer that lets you deal massive damage to an enemy base. I also plan on adding the Ore Fraking Operation soon, not as a structure that you can build, but one that starts out on the map and you have to capture it with an Engineer for an endless stream of income. I also want there to be abandoned buildings on the maps that you can garrison with infantry and use as a fort out in the battlefield. Finally, once the two main factions are done, I will start working on the single player campaign mode.

So that is it for today's update. Stay tuned for more, keep the suggestions coming, and if you haven't played Colony Wars yet, find download links at the following website:

https://apps.ape-apps.com/colony-wars/

H3110 guys?

Ideas are quite simple here, there are some building ideas that generates money.

• Small Commercial Building - These small buildings can be rented for community business use. Rent goes to your treasury.
• Medium Commercial Building - A direct upgrade of its smaller version, supporting more businesses and extract rent money form them.
• Commercial Centre - A centre commerce. It is able to serve tourists, while rent goes into your pocket like running water.
• Commerce Tower - A superb upgrade of Medium Commercial Building, which will generate mountains of plain money that will fill up hundreds of vaults! (A weaker varient of Investment Bank)
• Rent Collection Agency - Consuming civics, and they will collect housing rent in a colony-wide scale.

Morr ideas coming soon!

First, see https://www.ape-apps.com/viewpage.php?p=32941 as that idea from @GeneralWadaling kinda plays into this idea. And this will introduce even more ideas for it. Also, this uses ideas from my past posts and some comments in them. In fact, most of these are new, but some are quiet old(ish). But enjoy, because I may or may not get stumped and call on other people to help and improve on this, because i do not have the patients to sit down and type for long periods of time.

Particle Accelerator Through the Advancement of Qubits, we are able to harness the amount of computing ability to make Nuero-Oxide, a dense material that can be fused into Steel to make extremely durable metal alloys.
Nuero-Oxide, (NXE) is a material that is able to rival tirtanium in its durability, but not cost. Made by fusing particles and steel, this highly impacted material bends easy and allows for the creation or GIANT structures.

Particle Compiler eats up Qubits, but spits out Software like it's the machines last day on this planet.

Particle Encoder Porvides extra storage for Qubits and Nuero-Oxide, while taking in Antium,Cash, and robots.

Particle DecompresserBreaks down the particles to create(somehow) basic elements at a slow and steady pace.

And about heres where I ran into the WALL. The main question I ask myself is this: Do we NEED this? And to most of these, the answer is yes. But I also have a ton of ideas that dont fit anywhere else, and they have nothing to do with the stuff above. So these are the non-sense stuff, and enjoy.

Pablo's Pizza Palace Uses food to make pizza, a delicious dish that will also make sushi from fish, giving fish a new dish.(Rhymes!)

Advanced Helium 3 Genrator This generator works at 1/2 speed of the Regolith Extraction Inc, so you get more helium-3 but it doesn't drain your regolith reserves.

Wood,Inc sells and buys wood from (not real) colonys, and makes you a large gap of wood from it.

The End The end of the game, when you research the last tech. You unlock (if in region) the ability to make 1 medium city say "The End". It would be a cool way to flex on smaller colonys.

The TunnelFats and easy way to import colonists at the cost of electricity.

Swim up Bar Its a swim up bar that colinist over 21 can go to and drink with their friends.

Large Elementary Schoolteaches same range of intelligence as the small elementary school, but just holds more students.(Do this for medium elementary and all learning areas.

So that's about to wrap this thing up for now. This is probably only the first part, so (maybe?) Expect another, but not for a while. I've got a tight schedule, so be BOLO, and I will see yall later.